On October 22, 2000, Ahmed Shama, then-president of the UCLA Muslim Students Association, led a crowd of demonstrators at the Israeli consulate in chants of “Death to Israel!” and “Death to the Jews!” One guest speaker at the event was Hussam Ayloush, a member of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), which co-sponsored the rally. In his speech, Ayloush solicited contributions for the Holy Land Foundation, which was a supporter and fundraiser for Hamas.
MSA members at UCLA have raised money for Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists at their annual “Anti-Zionist Week.”
In March 2003, guest speaker Muhammad Faheed told an MSA meeting at Queensborough Community College in New York, “The only relationship you should have with America is to topple it!”
12 people arrested or convicted on terrorism charges in the United States and abroad who had once been members of Muslim student associations, or MSAs. To read more see: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/nypd-monitoring-of-muslim-students-sparks-pledges-to-work-more-closely-with-law-enforcement-against.html

Not surprising Penn’s MSA attempts to whitewash things.

The truth is the NYPD did this because Islam IS different. Islam IS unique among the world’s religions.

Islam is the only religion that praises those who fight for Islam’s glory and for Islam’s domination. We can see the fruits of this every day. Be it in Sudan, or Nigeria, or Pakistan, or Syria, the end result is clear to see.

The Caliphate the worldwide Ummah was Mohammed’s quest and not much has changed since then.

This is why the NYPD, the FBI, and countless other organizations dedicated to the protection of a countries citizens are pointing a spotlight on Muslims. I, for one, and glad they are doing their job and protecting the citizens against those who would do us harm.

the msa should be blaming its fellow muslims for making police surveillance neccesary. terrorism demands watchfulness.

What should the University do? Put up electronic fences so that only specific people can see the Penn MSA’s public website? Should they put a big fence around campus so a Philly Cop can’t stand in front of McD’s and see what is happening on the green?

If you are going to put something out for public viewing, you can’t complain when the police, who are part of the public too, view it. Even using the nasty words “Police Surveillance” doesn’t change the fact that NYPD was doing the same thing that any other person with Internet access can do!

I am not a cop, I don’t have any close relatives who are cops, I never played a cop on TV.

Anybody remember this scandal?

http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2006/11/06/16428/

Just another case of political correctness gone amok, as usual most exaggerated in the University community. Let’s be clear—Muslims in this country aren’t simply “scrutinized because of their religious affiliation”—they’re scrutinized because 99 % of terrorist acts in this country (and worldwide) have been carried out by jihadists in the name of radical Islam. And does anyone perchance acrtually remember 9/11? Over 3000 innocent Americans murdered by radical Muslims, again in the name of “Allah”. It remains amazing to me that the Muslims @ Penn and elsewhere in this country are much more vocal at imagined offenses (like the scrutiny that their co-religionists have made highly rational and indeed necessary to protect our country), than they ever are when fanatics of their religion murder innocents all over the world. So when the dog that bites you all the time is a German shepherd, you aren’t worried about cocker spaniels. Get it?

Let’s be fair. If this were happening to any of us, we’d be upset, too. The notion that since “99% of terrorist acts have been carried out by jihadists,” the scrutiny is justified is a stretch. A very large percentage of serial killers are middle age white men, but middle age white men certainly wouldn’t allow that statistic to justify secret government monitoring of their lives. I suggest the NYPD find a better way to keep us safe.

We’re losing our liberties, people. 9/11 was a horrible, despicable act of cowards but we’ve gone overboard in our response. It’s right to be cautious, but this is too much.

As a former MSA VP I’m not sure what disgust me more. The actions of “law enforcement”, the spineless statement of the University or the vile rhetoric of people who try to.defend discriminatory actions. Part of the American experience is the right of the people to be free from investigation or imprisonment WITHOUT justifiable cause. If “because you are Muslim” becomes a legitimate cause for being treated as a criminal, then this is not America. And the foolish people who claim that the muslims of America are dismantling the country would have saved the imaginary boogey men a trip, and done it themselves.

many statements by certain folk are also reticent to say the word “Israel” – perhaps a corollary phenomenon, but perhaps now this individual knows what it feels like to not have your existence acknowledged.

I agree with all you said, save for the (mis)characterization of german shepherds. they too are stereotyped because of how they have been used over time by the powers that be.

In the past these Muslim student groups have supported the murder of innocent Israelis and Americans, so we should all be glad the police are doing heir job and keeping tabs on them.

Scott Sontag’s comments exemplify the elaborate distortions required to obfuscate the very real ongoing threat of Islamic radicalism and associated terror. A few slight errors in your ( ?) reaoning: Serial killers are freakish rare phenomena, don’t involve a whole cultural mindset, and account for a tiny fraction of the thousands of murders carried out worldwide by extremism-fueled jihadists. And furthermore “white serial killers” aren’t lionized by Americans, have billboards put up to glorify their murders (as do Arab terrorists who murder innocent peace-loving Israelis), or loudly supported by their clergy. Face it, radical Islam and the violence it has engendered everywhere are by far the biggest threat to world peace and security—so unless/until it stops, anyone with a clear head and free of poisonous political correctness, realizes that the scrutiny that Muslim groups get is well deserved and necessary. Get a grip.