The end of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'?
LGBT community says ROTC will remain in violation of Penn's nondiscrimination policies unless Obama reverses military policy
· February 6, 2009, 5:00 am
The ROTC building houses the on-campus military recruiting program, which the LGBT community says violates Penn's nondiscrimination policy.
Since it was passed in 1993, the Clinton administration's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy has prevented open members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community from serving in the military due to claims of persecution and forced resignations.
Fortunately for those the policy affects, times may change with the new presidential administration - a change many in the LGBT community would welcome on campus.
Since the policy was passed, that community has been vocally opposed to the presence of Reserve Officer Training Corps and military recruitment on campus because they allege the military is a discriminatory organization.
And while President Barack Obama has expressed support for military recruiters and ROTC on university campuses, he has also expressed support for the repeal of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.
Scott Calvert, executive officer of Penn's Naval ROTC, explained that "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was intended to encourage LGBT members to join the military, even if they don't openly declare their sexuality.
"It's a tool that allows homosexual people to serve," he said, "but it oftentimes gets framed like it's a tool to punish people."
Bob Schoenberg, director of the Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Center, disagreed.
Military recruiters and ROTC retain their position on Penn's campus despite the school's nondiscrimination policy that should prohibit their presence until they accept all members of the community equally, Schoenberg said.
He referenced a recent statement by Penn President Amy Gutmann in which she said Penn will continue to violate its own nondiscrimination policy by retaining a military presence on campus until "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is repealed.
Schoenberg said he objects to the military presence solely because of its discriminatory implications.
"If Obama succeeds in changing the department of defense's policy, then there's no essential problem," he said.
Lambda Alliance chairman and College junior Dennie Zastrow said he hopes for the best from the new administration. "I definitely think there will be a big shift in power," he said.
He also emphasized the importance of retaining ROTC programs on academically-elite university campuses, explaining that the programs can provide a more liberal education than officers would receive if solely educated by the military.
Calvert, Schoenberg and Zastrow agree, however, that the military may have fewer problems liberalizing than people expect if the legislation changes.
Schoenberg pointed out the similarities of this situation to when the military integrated on the basis of race.
When race-based discrimination became illegal, many other institutions had problems adjusting to new "color blind" policies, he said. As a result, the military was a good place for people of color to start their careers.
Schoenberg said he believes that once nondiscrimination against LGBT people is legalized, the military may easily integrate new members once again.
"Most of our students probably don't particularly care one way or the other," Calvert said. "They've chosen to serve personally and aren't looking to exclude anybody else from making that same choice."
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Cheese
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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Big point: Don't ask Don't Tell and the bar to homosexual service members is a policy detailed in federal law. CONGRESS made the law, not the Department of Defense. If you don't like it write to your congressman. Change is coming...
Reference Please
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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Where does the figure of $350 million come from? Can you provide the source? [QUOTE id="64440230-66cf-4042-bbd2-ce8a296f862b"]In trying to convince us that Don't Ask Don't Tell is not a witch hunt, Calvert leaves out the fact that over 12,000 services members have been discharged in the past fifteen years, not to mention that it has cost taxpayers over $350 million for this to happen. The right to serve your country should not be determined by the open or closed identity of your sexual orientation. Trying to defend this policy is like beating a dead horse- we need to overturn it and move on with our lives.[/QUOTE]
Cynthia
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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In trying to convince us that Don't Ask Don't Tell is not a witch hunt, Calvert leaves out the fact that over 12,000 services members have been discharged in the past fifteen years, not to mention that it has cost taxpayers over $350 million for this to happen. The right to serve your country should not be determined by the open or closed identity of your sexual orientation. Trying to defend this policy is like beating a dead horse- we need to overturn it and move on with our lives.
only at penn
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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how about you do your research. or how about you join then talk. thanks
More liberalism from Penn's LGBTZQW%8* community
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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Don't ask, don't tell doesn't bar gays from the military -- it restricts their conduct (e.g. "telling.") This is no different from policies that prohibit intimate relationships among heterosexual service members, different clothing and hair regulations for males/females, etc. All of these policies are arguably incompatible with Penn's non-discrimination policy; that's why Penn is a university (and bastion of political correctness and liberalism) and why the military is, well, the military. If you don't support the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy, lobby your elected officials. Don't deny some of the brightest students in the country the opportunity to serve their nation. The LGBT community's opposition to the military recruiting on campus is rooted in left-wing hatred towards the U.S. armed forces and the actions they carry out. Don't think for one minute that it's a principled stand on military policy or Clinton-era federal law.
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