Pa. primary's role likely to be decided today
· March 4, 2008, 5:00 am
Today's primaries in Ohio and Texas could very well determine the fate of New York Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign - and the importance of Pennsylvania's April 22 primary.
Going into today's contests for the Democratic presidential nomination, Clinton holds a slight lead in the polls in Ohio, while Clinton and Illinois Sen. Barack Obama are virtually tied in Texas.
If Clinton loses to Obama in both Ohio and Texas, the next question is whether she will remain in the race. And should Obama win in both states, he will have effectively secured the nomination.
After a string of 11 victories since Feb. 5, Obama has continued to gain momentum in Ohio and Texas, states that were previously considered Clinton's territory.
"All the weather vanes seem to be pointing in Obama's direction," said Randall Miller, a political analyst and history professor at St. Joseph's University.
Miller added that the results in Ohio and Texas will determine whether Clinton remains a viable candidate.
Clinton must win in Ohio and Texas "to maintain the illusion that she's still in it," Miller said, but she needs to win by a significant margin in both states to actually remain competitive.
Analysts' views have changed since the days immediately following Super Tuesday, when pundits predicted it was plausible that the Democratic party would still not have a presumptive nominee by Pennsylvania's primary.
But now, Pennsylvania could simply serve as proving ground for Obama.
If Clinton wins in Ohio and Texas, "there would be a lot of attention focused on [Pennsylvania] . but not in the way we thought it would be a month ago," Miller said.
Clinton victories in both states would force Obama to have a strong showing in Pennsylvania to prove himself as the Democratic nominee. Still, Clinton would have to do very well in Pennsylvania, even with those wins, to catch up to Obama in terms of delegates.
Student groups on campus, particularly the Penn Democrats, are prepping for the possibility of a significant Pennsylvania primary.
"We'll definitely still be involved in the campaigns regardless of what happens" today, said Penn Dems president and College sophomore Lauren Burdette.
She added that even if Clinton drops out of the race after today's primaries, Penn Dems will still hold its endorsement meeting tomorrow night. However, the organization is planning for a contested race in Pennsylvania.
If Clinton stays in the race, Burdette said, she thinks Pennsylvania's primary would be "bigger than Iowa," and the Penn Dems' endorsement will hold significant weight.
Penn students are excited about the upcoming primaries, though unsure about their probable outcomes.
"If Pennsylvania does matter, I think it will go to Obama," said College freshman Becky Heller. "But tomorrow, I think Hillary's got a chance for sure."




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tribhuvan
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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When you do an intervention you need to know why you are doing it and how you do it. The purpose of the intervention is to bring the person back to reality to get him or her to treatment. Addicts are not in the same reality as regular people. They do not see the "world" as it is. The goal of the intervention is for the person to accept the reality of their substance addiction and to seek the right help. They would to look at those around them as to measure of how right or wrong their behaviors are. People that surround themselves with persons who are caught up in the grasp of substance addiction are not able to see the drastic lengths that their own dependence has come to. Their using "friends" are a duplicate of themselves, leading them to believe that their own actions are acceptable cause the environment accept them. --------------------- tribhuvan --------------- Drug Intervention Pennsylvania -Drug Intervention Pennsylvania
Sam Osborne
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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Ã??THEY DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE SO EXCITED AND THAT IS DISTRESSING?Ã? As if the individual that disparages their choice has asked every one of them why they support Obama? Many people want a change in the way business is being done in Washington and do not want a continuance of Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton experience. Surveys of those voting for Obama indicate that he is being supported by well educated people---particularly those under age 60. The surveys also indicate that ClintonÃ?s support comes from the less educated and older women. Members of the Democratic Party are faced with a choice between and bright future or an irrelevant and dead-ended past.
Sam Osborne
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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Ã??THEY DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE SO EXCITED AND THAT IS DISTRESSING?Ã? As if the individual that disparages their choice has asked every one of them why they support Obama? Many people want a change in the way business is being done in Washington and do not want a continuance of Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton experience. Surveys of those voting for Obama indicate that he is being supported by well educated people---particularly those under age 60. The surveys also indicate that ClintonÃ?s support comes from the less educated and older women. Members of the Democratic Party are faced with a choice between and bright future or an irrelevant and dead-ended past.
Jim H.
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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- ---------------"When Women Rule" -------From the NEW YORK TIMES February 11, 2008 Nicholas Kristof writes in the New York Times, "While no woman has been president of the United States Ã? yet Ã? the world does have several thousand years' worth of e
Sam Osborne
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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The campaign of Barack Obama has excited a whole new generation of previously disinterested young Americans. And though this swelling involvement of youth should set Democratic Party members singing Ã?Happy Days Are Here Again, a few older members seem averse to joining with them and instead expect these young people to temper their idealism and switch allegiance to a candidate of their eldersÃ? choosing. This wave of change is not going to happen if the incipient enthusiasm of these young people is squelched; the bulk of the newly involved will drift into the dead center of an apathetic public that has little faith in any political partyÃ?s capacity to set this nation on a path that bodes a more promising and inclusive future for working and middle class, and destitute Americans. Before any of us good old Democrats let this happen, best we remember John F. KennedyÃ?s inaugural charge to the American people of his time: Ã?Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans.Ã? The only experience that means much of anything to these young people is the thrill and sense of accomplishment that has come to them from being involved in this inspirational campaign to bring real change to what has become vested-interests business in Washington. The nationwide campaigns of Obama and Clinton are respectively the largest, most complex, resource consuming, people motivating, and open-ended efforts over which either one of them has ever before presided. ObamaÃ?s has been an inspirational model of good governance; ClintonÃ?s is a fractious mess that has desperately resorted to openly smearing her opponent and anonymously spreading innuendo. How come ClintonÃ?s highly touted experience did not make a difference from day one and has now prompted her and Bill Clinton to mire the Democratic campaign in the dirt?
Undecided
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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Read: If you don't want to play my way, I'm going to take my ball and go home. Grow up Sam - your candidate might not win. If that means that you're going to drop out of the political process, America is better off without your ill-informed and immature vote. [QUOTE id="e61c99ba-4406-4fed-967c-4279a7a3b640"]Letter to the editor, The campaign of Barack Obama has excited a whole new generation of previously disinterested young Americans. And though this large and swelling involvement of youth should set Democratic Party members singing Ã?Happy Days Are Here Again, a few in the ranks of the regular and older members seem averse to joining the movement and instead expect these young people to temper their idealism and switch allegiance to a candidate of their eldersÃ? choosing. This wave of change is not going to happen if the incipient enthusiasm of these young people is squelched; the bulk of the newly involved will drift into the dead center of an apathetic public that has little faith in any political partyÃ?s capacity to set this nation on a path that bodes a more promising and inclusive future for working and middle class, and destitute Americans. Before any of us good old Democrats let this happen, best we remember John F. KennedyÃ?s inaugural charge to the American people of his time: Ã?Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans.Ã? The only experience that has meant anything to these young people is the thrill and sense of accomplishment that has come from their being involved in an outstanding movement to bring real change to the sorry state of business as usual in Washington. The nationwide campaigns of Obama and Clinton are respectively the largest, most complex, resource consuming, people motivating, and open-ended efforts over which either one of them has ever before presided. ObamaÃ?s has been an inspirational model of good governance; ClintonÃ?s is a fractious mess and has now desperately slipped into the politics of open trashing and innuendo. How come her highly touted experience did not make a difference from day one? Sam Osborne Box 147 West Branch, IA 52358 (319) 643-5388[/QUOTE]
Hot 25 yo PA Female
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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True, Sam. The Obama campaign has excited disinterested young Americans, but they don't know why they are so excited and that is distressing. If one person can come here and explain to me why a vote for Barack is for change, and tell me why he deserves a vote other than 'He speaks so well and just brings people together!', which, is what I have heard time and time and time again from supporters, if someone can give me a reason I really should be voting for him with reason, then please do. I'm so disgusted with 90% of the sheep grazing through this great country, who are so conceited and naive to not understand what they are doing. Most of the population will keep sleeping, and fortunately there is an underground of true patriots that will fight for all of you despite the naitivity. If people walk into that poll and they do not place a vote for Ron Paul, there are 3 things that may have contributed: 1-they have never heard of him because they are watching tv and reading the paper *cough rockfeller cough*, 2-they are uneducated, or 3-they have chose to be ignorant. Period. How much worse does the population need to see things get? You all pay attention to early warning signs of heart disease and cancer etc. Why won't you see these signs, the ones that affect everyone? Ignorance is bliss and then you wake up in a work camp. Have fun.
Sam Osborne
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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Letter to the editor, The campaign of Barack Obama has excited a whole new generation of previously disinterested young Americans. And though this large and swelling involvement of youth should set Democratic Party members singing Ã?Happy Days Are Here Again, a few in the ranks of the regular and older members seem averse to joining the movement and instead expect these young people to temper their idealism and switch allegiance to a candidate of their eldersÃ? choosing. This wave of change is not going to happen if the incipient enthusiasm of these young people is squelched; the bulk of the newly involved will drift into the dead center of an apathetic public that has little faith in any political partyÃ?s capacity to set this nation on a path that bodes a more promising and inclusive future for working and middle class, and destitute Americans. Before any of us good old Democrats let this happen, best we remember John F. KennedyÃ?s inaugural charge to the American people of his time: Ã?Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans.Ã? The only experience that has meant anything to these young people is the thrill and sense of accomplishment that has come from their being involved in an outstanding movement to bring real change to the sorry state of business as usual in Washington. The nationwide campaigns of Obama and Clinton are respectively the largest, most complex, resource consuming, people motivating, and open-ended efforts over which either one of them has ever before presided. ObamaÃ?s has been an inspirational model of good governance; ClintonÃ?s is a fractious mess and has now desperately slipped into the politics of open trashing and innuendo. How come her highly touted experience did not make a difference from day one? Sam Osborne Box 147 West Branch, IA 52358 (319) 643-5388
Me
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm
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No offense to the freshman who thinks Pennsylvania will go to Obama, but she doesn't appear to know all that much about the state or its demographics (fairly similar to Ohio which Hillary won decisively). PA is Hillary territory for several reasons: 1) it's a closed Democratic primary (bad for Obama); 2) voters in PA tend to be more moderate if not flat out consevrative across the state (minus Philly and also Pittsburgh to an extent); 3) PA has a much older population; 4) PA has a relatively small African American population (bad for Obama); 5) PA is a MAJOR blue-collar, union state (good for Hillary); 6) Hillary has PA Gov Ed Rendell (one of the best Democratic fundraisers ever) on her side, as well as Philly Mayor Michael Nutter. I could go on, but I have things to do.
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