If there is a security guard uniform missing and the community wasn't notified someone should be fired.

I don't know if this is the same incident, but both e-mails went out last night: My roommate got an e-mail from someone in one of his groups that said her friend was walking home and when she got to 38th and Chestnut, a security guard asked her if she would like to be walked home, and she said what the hell. When they go to her door, and she proceeded to walk in, he said "Miss..." and she turned around and he had his penis in his hand. She reported the incident, and they said, "Some of our uniforms are missing." This means one of two things: (1) There are people out there dressed as security guards and NO ONE was notified about it. (2) That was a lie that DPS told the girl to cover its ass so that word doesn't get out about a crime by an employee/agent of DPS. Either way, it's not right.

[QUOTE id="a6a82ae2-c089-4a73-9901-c970e11e08c5"]Why didn't she just use her weapon? How these dimwitted, naive Penn students have the arrogance to not own a gun or taser, is beyond me. What is this, lollipop land?[/QUOTE] My God you're ignorant. How unbelievably inappropriate.

Youre an absolute idiot--Get a gun, and use it on yourself [QUOTE id="a6a82ae2-c089-4a73-9901-c970e11e08c5"]Why didn't she just use her weapon? How these dimwitted, naive Penn students have the arrogance to not own a gun or taser, is beyond me. What is this, lollipop land?[/QUOTE]

If this is true, Maureen Rush must be fired. End of story. [QUOTE id="5fb602fa-0cd5-4a02-8ec1-d85540961113"]I don't know if this is the same incident, but both e-mails went out last night: My roommate got an e-mail from someone in one of his groups that said her friend was walking home and when she got to 38th and Chestnut, a security guard asked her if she would like to be walked home, and she said what the hell. When they go to her door, and she proceeded to walk in, he said "Miss..." and she turned around and he had his penis in his hand. She reported the incident, and they said, "Some of our uniforms are missing." This means one of two things: (1) There are people out there dressed as security guards and NO ONE was notified about it. (2) That was a lie that DPS told the girl to cover its ass so that word doesn't get out about a crime by an employee/agent of DPS. Either way, it's not right.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE id="5fb602fa-0cd5-4a02-8ec1-d85540961113"]I don't know if this is the same incident, but both e-mails went out last night: My roommate got an e-mail from someone in one of his groups that said her friend was walking home and when she got to 38th and Chestnut, a security guard asked her if she would like to be walked home, and she said what the hell. When they go to her door, and she proceeded to walk in, he said "Miss..." and she turned around and he had his penis in his hand. She reported the incident, and they said, "Some of our uniforms are missing." This means one of two things: (1) There are people out there dressed as security guards and NO ONE was notified about it. (2) That was a lie that DPS told the girl to cover its ass so that word doesn't get out about a crime by an employee/agent of DPS. Either way, it's not right.[/QUOTE] My guess is the latter. Give just-hired security guards a uniform and tell them to escort female Penn students around campus and eventually someone is going to get the wrong idea. It's kind of pathetic, actually.

Maureen Rush is just a symptom of a greater problem. The true problem stems from the refusal of Police Commissioner Johnson and DA Abraham to arrest and prosecute criminals. One of the first things Johnson did after taking over from Comm. Timoney was to stop arresting offenders for minor crimes (like graffiti, vagrancy, etc.). Most criminals start their careers (if you can call it that) committing small minor offenses and graduate to bigger and more heinous crimes. Timoney in Philadelphia and Juliani NYC proved that if you target the lesser crimes and insist on prosecution and incarceration, the greater crimes decrease. An 18 year old who is incarcerated for thirty days for spraying graffiti on a subway stop wall is less likely to reoffend than someone who is arrested and not punished or not arrested at all. Crime is very much like a fire; the hottest point of the fire is at the very top of the flames, however, spraying water at that point will never put it out. You have to put the fire out from its base. Criminals are becoming less fearful of the justice system and more emboldened to commit greater and greater crimes. Penn is simply seeing its share of what�?s happening around the city. The answer to Philadelphia�?s crime problem isn�?t creating any new laws (considering their have been laws against robbery, murder, assault, etc. for hundreds of years), but instead a two pronged approach. 1. A new Police Commissioner and District Attorney who are willing to attack the minor crimes and to prosecute the offenders. 2. Citizens willing to take an active roll in protecting their communities by reporting suspicious activity immediately and refusing to be victims by preparing themselves to defend against attack (A solid front door and a hand-gun is much better than just a solid front door).

[QUOTE id="a6a82ae2-c089-4a73-9901-c970e11e08c5"]Why didn't she just use her weapon? How these dimwitted, naive Penn students have the arrogance to not own a gun or taser, is beyond me. What is this, lollipop land?[/QUOTE] A firearm is the ultimate equalizer Ð Just as little David with his sling was able to slay massive Goliath Ð any ninety pound female with even the smallest of firearm can defeat the largest and most determined rapist or criminal.

[ Josh doesn't give Rush enough credit. When Timoney, Rodin, Fry, Seamon, and Rambo were around crime was down. Everyone was getting arrested for minor offenses. When they left Rush started easing off because of fear of getting the minorities upset, ya know, racial profiling. Now that Prez Amy is in charge and Rush, Dorsey, and Fisher are running the place, crime is through the roof again and we have incidents where security guard uniforms are missing leading to thugs exposing themselves. She is more than a symptom man. QUOTE id="9f4664b6-0240-4093-8000-731cd557f4f4"]Maureen Rush is just a symptom of a greater problem. The true problem stems from the refusal of Police Commissioner Johnson and DA Abraham to arrest and prosecute criminals. One of the first things Johnson did after taking over from Comm. Timoney was to stop arresting offenders for minor crimes (like graffiti, vagrancy, etc.). Most criminals start their careers (if you can call it that) committing small minor offenses and graduate to bigger and more heinous crimes. Timoney in Philadelphia and Juliani NYC proved that if you target the lesser crimes and insist on prosecution and incarceration, the greater crimes decrease. An 18 year old who is incarcerated for thirty days for spraying graffiti on a subway stop wall is less likely to reoffend than someone who is arrested and not punished or not arrested at all. Crime is very much like a fire; the hottest point of the fire is at the very top of the flames, however, spraying water at that point will never put it out. You have to put the fire out from its base. Criminals are becoming less fearful of the justice system and more emboldened to commit greater and greater crimes. Penn is simply seeing its share of what�?s happening around the city. The answer to Philadelphia�?s crime problem isn�?t creating any new laws (considering their have been laws against robbery, murder, assault, etc. for hundreds of years), but instead a two pronged approach. 1. A new Police Commissioner and District Attorney who are willing to attack the minor crimes and to prosecute the offenders. 2. Citizens willing to take an active roll in protecting their communities by reporting suspicious activity immediately and refusing to be victims by preparing themselves to defend against attack (A solid front door and a hand-gun is much better than just a solid front door).[/QUOTE]

When they left Rush started easing off because of fear of getting the minorities upset, ya know, racial profiling. Thanks Oh Boyee, for being a total asshole. How do we know you're not the rapists?

[QUOTE id="0c9425a4-64d0-4328-9693-1fc60074d68f"]" Thanks Oh Boyee, for being a total asshole. How do we know you're not the rapists?[/QUOTE] Huh�? when I read thought out comments like this, I just have to wonder about the quality control at Penn�?s admission�?s committee. That being said, if the victim were armed we would likely know who the rapist was.. He�?d have been the naked man in the pool of blood.

I have questions, Dp - What happened? Was it sexual assault, or rape? (I think, sexual assault is non-consensual sex with out injury, rape is sex with injury) Was there burglary as well? (Burglary is forced entry with the intent of committing a crime, correct me if I'm wrong.) How many times has it happened in the last 12 years. Can someone at DP look this up? It's the 3rd incident Rush, "can recall." Can we get confirmation? Also - don't get all breathless dear readers, 3 in 12 years means the chances of it happening to you are still pretty small. My heart goes out to the victim. I wish her a complete recovery, and the speedy capture of her assailant.

Who is to say that a gun would've done a damn bit of good? I'm sure she would've had it within arms length because she knew she was going to get raped, right? And if she's a junior or a senior who has been living off campus for 2 or 3 years, she more likely than not has ever had to use her gun before, and it is probably in the closet, desk drawer, in a box under her bed, etc. It seems pretty damn stupid to think a gun would've done any good unless it had been loaded and off safety, within arms length of where she was getting assaulted, but not conspicuous enough that the attacker would've seen it, and godforbid, wrested it from her hands and used it against her. Great logic, Josh. When you post 4 or 5 times about the virtue of guns, you show that your agenda is for something other than actually caring about what happened to this girl. [QUOTE id="0c9425a4-64d0-4328-9693-1fc60074d68f"]"When they left Rush started easing off because of fear of getting the minorities upset, ya know, racial profiling." Thanks Oh Boyee, for being a total asshole. How do we know you're not the rapists?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE id="0c9425a4-64d0-4328-9693-1fc60074d68f"]"When they left Rush started easing off because of fear of getting the minorities upset, ya know, racial profiling." Thanks Oh Boyee, for being a total asshole. How do we know you're not the rapists?[/QUOTE] Josh, You've clearly made some of the most asinine comments, probably ever posted on this site. And the Davey and Goliath comparison, were you serious?

[QUOTE id="67af1280-36d3-40fa-97c5-4f9945c98ee3"] "Philadelphia Police Sgt. Francis Erickson of the Special Victims Unit said the rape occurred at about 5 a.m. yesterday. He said the victim was not injured but would not say if she had gone to a hospital for treatment. He would not release further details because police are in the preliminary stages of their investigation." j[/QUOTE] Jeanne, I agree that the victim of a sex crime has undeniably been injured. However, you'll notice the police sergeant was not directly quoted saying there was no injury. If he had, the DP would have quoted him verbatim, attributed the remark to him, and used quotation marks. The remark about no injury is simply the DP reporter's interpretation of what the sergeant said. Fact is, we don't know what he specifically said about the complainant's injuries. R. Peel The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

[QUOTE id="487ef2c2-57b8-46e7-adfc-65ed1f05efce"]I got that email about the "separate" incident, and it involved a guy dressed in a security guard's uniform exposing himself to a girl he had walked home last night. Apparantly some of the uniforms are "missing." Wouldn't you think this is also something the campus should be alerted about?? If we don't even know who is safe to walk home with, what do we do then? There should be some kind of identification system with those escort guys, because now I don't know who to trust. All around, I'm pretty freaked out.[/QUOTE] I got an email yesterday too...from some guy in Botswana who wanted my help in transferring a small fortune left to him by the king of Lilliputamia, but I digress. My point is that the email about the missing guard's uniform may not be entirely reliable. As we all know, these kind of chain emails often contain erroneous information. On the other hand, I can certainly understand your apprehension. If I needed a walking escort, I'd call for one instead of walking along with the first uniformed person I saw. If I had any doubts about whether the person was legitimate (due to their manner, appearance, or lack of equipment such as a working radio) I'd call Penn Police. I've never doubted their identity. Better yet, I'd walk with friends. What is more troublesome to me is the fact that this was likely not an impersonator but a legitimate Allied Barton employee. R. Peel The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

[QUOTE id="5fb602fa-0cd5-4a02-8ec1-d85540961113"]I don't know if this is the same incident, but both e-mails went out last night: My roommate got an e-mail from someone in one of his groups that said her friend was walking home and when she got to 38th and Chestnut, a security guard asked her if she would like to be walked home, and she said what the hell. When they go to her door, and she proceeded to walk in, he said "Miss..." and she turned around and he had his penis in his hand. She reported the incident, and they said, "Some of our uniforms are missing." This means one of two things: (1) There are people out there dressed as security guards and NO ONE was notified about it. (2) That was a lie that DPS told the girl to cover its ass so that word doesn't get out about a crime by an employee/agent of DPS. Either way, it's not right.[/QUOTE] I (and I'm sure many other readers) would like to see a Daily Pennsylvanian investigation of this incident.

[QUOTE id="0537f98d-4870-4422-8428-265b3e7fd4f1"]Fire Maureen Rush. Noooow.[/QUOTE] Good idea. Let's fire Amy Gutmann too, since Mo reports directly to her. Obviously they're both incompetent. Come to think of it, let's go after the folks Amy reports to as well. They're clearly asleep at the switch. None of the other factors that contribute to crime, human nature not being the least of these, matter a whit when we can (wrongly) place blame on someone. Get a grip. R. Peel The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

Is this area (4000 block of Spruce) actually considered "off-campus" ? Wish there were more details. Was her place bronken into while she was there or did it begin when she was outside? Seems strange that this happened at 5am but perverts are always around. Anyway,there should be better housing available to students. These dilapidated rowhouses are disgusting, over-priced, rodent-infested firetraps with no security. The Spruce, Pine, Baltimore area around 40th St. definitely could use more security. I saw a gang of "kids" wandering around there and no guard in sight. I'll admit I backed up and walked in another direction.

[QUOTE id="5fb602fa-0cd5-4a02-8ec1-d85540961113"]I don't know if this is the same incident, but both e-mails went out last night: My roommate got an e-mail from someone in one of his groups that said her friend was walking home and when she got to 38th and Chestnut, a security guard asked her if she would like to be walked home, and she said what the hell. When they go to her door, and she proceeded to walk in, he said "Miss..." and she turned around and he had his penis in his hand. She reported the incident, and they said, "Some of our uniforms are missing." This means one of two things: (1) There are people out there dressed as security guards and NO ONE was notified about it. (2) That was a lie that DPS told the girl to cover its ass so that word doesn't get out about a crime by an employee/agent of DPS. Either way, it's not right.[/QUOTE] See, here we go with unattributed, third- and fourth-hand information. Where did this email come from? Who sent it? From whom did the sender get their information? How did that person get it? What's the basis of their knowledge? Who exactly did the victiminitially report the incident to? Who exactly told her, "Some of our uniforms are missing."? The word 'our' leads me to believe that was an Allied Barton spokesman since DPS doesn't maintain a stock of security uniforms. Allied Barton is responsible for clothing their people, not DPS. Of course, that all assumes that someone actually made the comment in the first place. I do not believe any sworn member of the Penn Police made an attempt to cover this up. Given that Penn Police investigated the incident and filed public police reports (which are obtainable by anyone with very little effort), it's clear that the DPS took appropriate action through the Penn Police. R. Peel The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

[QUOTE id="75f6be7d-e682-47ad-8ab9-253452151ad3"]Last spring I was looking for the building my student was interested in renting with friends 2007-08 on the 4000 block of Spruce. As I approached it I saw the door wide open. I was able to walk into the first floor area and could plainly see the second floor door leading to that flat also wide open. I called out and no one responded, from anywhere. I left, with all my concerns about off-campus living intact. Criminals are opportunistic. They don't like to work hard. I don't know if the victim's residence was secured, but I hope that other students will now do what can to keep predators out and prevent this incident from becoming a serial event.[/QUOTE] You hit the nail on the head. Which brings me to.... We are all responsible for our own safety. R. Peel The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

[QUOTE id="ffa6e95f-5142-4601-aac6-7faac61b7bc2"]Is this area (4000 block of Spruce) actually considered "off-campus" ? Wish there were more details. Was her place bronken into while she was there or did it begin when she was outside? Seems strange that this happened at 5am but perverts are always around. Anyway,there should be better housing available to students. These dilapidated rowhouses are disgusting, over-priced, rodent-infested firetraps with no security. The Spruce, Pine, Baltimore area around 40th St. definitely could use more security. I saw a gang of "kids" wandering around there and no guard in sight. I'll admit I backed up and walked in another direction.[/QUOTE] I'm sure the area can use some sprucing up (yeah, I thought long and hard about that one), but let's keep one thing in mind. Students who live in that area live exactly as people in the neighborhood do, and the condition of the inside of their homes is often reflective of their own personal habits. If an individual feels a need to live in a more secure environment, then I'm sure Domus or one of the college houses would love their business. Most people do not live with the luxury of an Allied Barton guard posted outside their door. I know I don't. By the way, did these youths trouble you enough for you to call Penn Police to check them out? That's what these guys are for. If you didn't, did you consider that while you were able to avoid this gang of roving ruffians someone else may not be so lucky? Your simple phone call may have prevented someone else's life altering experience. R. Peel The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

[QUOTE id="4559ad6b-a5be-46e4-b1d9-643be7bfb598"]I have questions, Dp - What happened? Was it sexual assault, or rape? (I think, sexual assault is non-consensual sex with out injury, rape is sex with injury) Was there burglary as well? (Burglary is forced entry with the intent of committing a crime, correct me if I'm wrong.) How many times has it happened in the last 12 years. Can someone at DP look this up? It's the 3rd incident Rush, "can recall." Can we get confirmation? Also - don't get all breathless dear readers, 3 in 12 years means the chances of it happening to you are still pretty small. My heart goes out to the victim. I wish her a complete recovery, and the speedy capture of her assailant.[/QUOTE] I believe "sexual assault" covers everything from forcible rape to grabbing someone's ass, depending upon the degree being charged. The problem with the lack of precision in this article is pretty serious.

It's high time for members of the Penn community to do something about the growing issue of bad security around campus-- at this point, no one feels safe given the current state of affairs. It's up to the students to create an uproar that Amy G can't ignore-- maybe she should focus on the safety of Penn's students, not a $5 billion campaign for some shiny new buildings.

[QUOTE id="7224db83-5cbe-47fa-97fc-5a89538eefb6"]It's high time for members of the Penn community to do something about the growing issue of bad security around campus-- at this point, no one feels safe given the current state of affairs. It's up to the students to create an uproar that Amy G can't ignore-- maybe she should focus on the safety of Penn's students, not a $5 billion campaign for some shiny new buildings.[/QUOTE] I wholeheartedly agree!!!